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If you have no cash, and you've used up the meager funds TANF gives you, there are other programs still available to cover the necessities of life.. SNAP comes to mind, as do overnight shelters. It's not much of a life, but at least you're not out in the cold. A safety net for the safety net if you will.

Okay, now that stuff goes away, and you just get the one (significantly increased, but still, just the one) payout every so often. There is no safety net under the safety net anymore.

Those two stories I see linked reference other countries with radically different cultures. How many studies have been done with families that live in the USA and are subject to its cultural norms? Culture drives spending and expectations.

I say this as someone that thinks UBI is a Great Idea, but this is a question that from what I can tell remains unanswered.



But this is assuming that Basic Income is a solution for the poor. It's not. It's a solution for all of us as it's based on the premise there there will be less work in the future not more.

So We are all going to be poorer so to speak UBI tries to make sure we somehow deal with that.


But this is assuming that Basic Income is a solution for the poor. It's not.

So We are all going to be poorer so to speak UBI tries to make sure we somehow deal with that.

These are contradictory statements.

Any any case, even if true, it just makes my question that much more urgent. You cannot suggest a system that dismantles the existing welfare system without answering the question of what replaces it and if the cracks people will necessarily fall through become bigger or smaller.


Not they aren't

The assumption most make about UBI is that it's for the poor, meaning someone else than themselves.

The reality is that it's for all of us because we are all going to be poor.

So not it's not contradictory it's showing the different between two ways to understand UBI.


I'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for here?

If people use up all their safety nets then they fall, just like they do now. I'm not sure what you think we can do about that?




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