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Basically those guys just give up on how they're expected to live: work hard, pay a mortgage, get a job, consume, be polite, don't have too much fun, don't ask too many questions, be a good person.

They're not completely unable to avoid homelessness, but they don't see that what their country is offering them is a fair or interesting deal. The future is just depressing in terms of opportunity and economics, so to me, those guys just give up, and they're not to blame. It's their country who betrayed them, pure and simple.

I too feel that I'm often being blamed for my lack of motivation and discipline of work, but to be honest, I'm not seeing anything in society that makes sense at all, so living lifeby not adhering to the common capitalist pillars seems risky at first, but with the recession and the economical context, it makes totally sense, and if the country fails because of it, I don't think I could be accused for it.



Sounds like they're the American equivalent to Hikikomori.


That is a great analogy. The distinction between "giving up" and "making the best of what is around you" is easier to draw when it isn't wrapped up in the rhetoric of rugged individualism.


This is the future that awaits millions more as automation marches forwards.


Rethinking capitalism seems like the only option, then. (Well, this shouldn’t be surprising … it’s been happening ever since the start of the industrial solution. Markets are pretty awesome and can be extremely useful, no doubt. However, I would transition to just seeing them as a useful tool that can be more effective than potential alternatives in certain situations. Just not the be all, end all, that’s it. Seems simple enough to me, and also already the accepted truth, more or less, pretty much everywhere anyway, if you look at practical implementations of economies.)


There will always be plenty of useful jobs to do, if there is money given to fund it: picking up litter, gardening public spaces, TSA, etc


Not necessarily. A tax increase for the largest corporation might create opportunity to create smaller businesses.

Automation doesn't mean people have to live by it, on the contrary, we could still try to live away from large cities, and thrive by improving life standards. There is so much more thing to do in more rural, less populated areas now that technology is there.

The current problem is the anti competitiveness, that's what ruining young people: most of them just stick to the cities, where it's easier to be poor.


I dunno about all that. I've been poor in a rural area and it was much, much easier to get by. I could rent a crappy apartment on a minimum wage and stuff was cheap in general.

I've since moved to the city precisely because I'm making more money now and it's where the jobs are but I'd never survive on my old salary from 15 years ago when I was broke.

People stick to the cities because it's more efficient to live in proximity to work and social circles than to spend all of your spare time driving or just missing out because there's nothing around you.




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