3 times epsilon is still epsilon. The bandwidth taken by plain text, even assuming worst case overhead of many small one-character messages, is inconsequential compared to images or videos.
E-mail has optional security for things that do matter, namely GPG/PGP for client <-> client and the STARTTLS extension to SMTP for server <-> server. Wave, as a replacement for E-mail, provides pervasive security.
"IM protocols have barely any security" -- given that this discussion is regarding an IM protocol with a built-in high-quality security infrastructure, I don't see how this statement is at all valid.
>> "IM protocols have barely any security" -- given that this discussion is regarding an IM protocol with a built-in high-quality security infrastructure, I don't see how this statement is at all valid.
I was talking about the main IM protocols in use today - yahoo/msn/aim.
You'd be surprised @ plain text. It quickly adds up. I do around 3.5TB of plain text IRC/http a month, and if I could reduce that, I would. If we were all using jabber instead of IRC my bandwidth would be more like 10TB. Quite a difference.
>> "E-mail has optional security for things that do matter, namely GPG/PGP for client <-> client and the STARTTLS extension to SMTP for server <-> server. Wave, as a replacement for E-mail, provides pervasive security."
That comes back to my original comment - I'm not sure it solves any real world problem users have. Users don't care about security like that.
>> "That comes back to my original comment - I'm not sure it solves any real world problem users have. Users don't care about security like that."
I'm not sure that's accurate. Maybe users don't care about security, but I would venture that's because they don't know any better. I don't think most people understand that their emails and IMs are crossing the web in plaintext, or just how easy it would be for someone unintended to get access to those messages. I don't think it's an informed lack of concern.
E-mail has optional security for things that do matter, namely GPG/PGP for client <-> client and the STARTTLS extension to SMTP for server <-> server. Wave, as a replacement for E-mail, provides pervasive security.
"IM protocols have barely any security" -- given that this discussion is regarding an IM protocol with a built-in high-quality security infrastructure, I don't see how this statement is at all valid.