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Singapore has only recently relaxed (read: suspended) the imposition of mandatory capital punishment for drug trafficking charges.

While Western governments and media have long criticized Singapore's draconian laws and its low tolerance for all crime, it has to be said that the prosperous city-state has been highly effective at warding off the ill effects of lax criminal jurisprudence and enforcement that typify, with the exception of an absurdly oil-rich Norway or two, almost all developed Western societies.

It pays to give our approach to crime and sentencing another look before we blissfully laud ourselves for 'upholding' some imaginary ethos governing human dignity at the cost of rampant societal maladies that continue to plague us, while in reality, doing a sloppy job at both.

Case in point:

Number of deaths in Iraq over the period of 2003-11 : 4,422

Number of murders in Chicago,Ill. over the same period : 4,265

Source(s):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNIT9Dn_Rjk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaDR2kLI0m0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_99LydvXqDk

https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=138...

http://hbo.vice.com/episode-nine/ep-9-seg-1



There is absolutely no way that the total death count in Iraq from 2003, at the start of the US invasion, to 2011 is only 4,422. Bush's own estimate, which was heavily sandbagged, was 30,000.


The graphic clearly refers to Americans killed in Iraq.

Source:

http://hbo.vice.com/episode-nine/ep-9-seg-1/infographic


The graphic does, but your reference to it makes no such mention.


The only reason to exclude non-American deaths is to make a dishonest comparison, or racism. Vice did it for the first.


Totalitarian states (e.g. USSR, East Germany, North Korea) are extremely effective at dealing with small crime. Growing in a small town in East Germany we didn't have a key for our house small door. There were literally zero people to use or sell illegal drugs.


The most recent estimates for Iraq War casualties involve around five thousand from the Coalition Forces, around twenty five thousand Iraqi insurgents/defenders/combatants, around fifteen hundred contractors, and around seventeen thousand Iraqi Security Forces.


And a few millions to die from the lack of infrastructure, emergency care, pollution with depleted (to a small degree) uranium.




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