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No, they do not "frequently just call out to C libraries".

2 of 10 (pidigits and regex-redux) allow use of widely available third party libraries — GMP, PCRE, RE2 — because there were language implementations that simply wrapped those libraries.



You should really create a way to filter solutions with SIMD intrinsics and without them.


Like the hand-written vector instructions | "unsafe" section down-page?

https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...

It’s not that easy. I assume other programs hide the use in macros and libraries, in ways far beyond my simple understanding.


Cool! I didn’t see it before, maybe because I mostly use the language vs. language feature. There is no such section there, but it would be very helpful IMO, instead of clicking every solution to check which one is intrinsics free.


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But it’s not that easy.

Filters some but maybe not all and maybe filters some wrongly.


> language vs. language

Where there are few enough programs that readers should check that the programs they compare seem appropriate for their purpose.


Well, it's your site, so you can do what you want with it, but I don't believe what you just wrote is logical at all. Sometimes, you just want to see, in general, how one language compares to another when one uses intrinsics and the other doesn't, without having to click through every single benchmark across multiple versions to find one without intrinsics. This is just bad UX and waste of time.


> one uses intrinsics and the other doesn't

Why? Did you mean both use intrinsics or both don't?

> Sometimes, you just want to see

As-it-says, look for more-secs less-gz-source-code -- probably less optimised.


Surely you wouldn’t say that if the language you wanted to win had SIMD API :)


20% is frequently. And calling out to C is cheaty.


https://www.wilfred.me.uk/blog/2014/10/20/the-fastest-bigint...

Look at all the programming language implementations that provide big integers by calling out to GMP. Why would it be "cheating" when available to all and done openly? Libraries matter.

>Most the Debian benchmarks for C# are cheaty too.<

Just name-calling.


In any case, because the charts are frequently cut & pasted out-of-context they should not include pi-digits and regex-redux data. Now they don't, so thank you.

If you don't think it's appropriate to compare the pi-digits and regex-redux programs, simply ignore them and compare the other 8!




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