Can you give me a concrete example of one of these hipsters? I'd like to know because I work at a company where we use rails and related tech exclusively, so we'd probably fit right into this camp.
> who are too cool to do things the standard, time tested way. It's one thing to go bleeding edge for the sake of experimentation and furthering your knowledge and skill but when you're off using some esoteric language or framework or whatever just to be different or cool then that's really... Well... Lame for lack of a better word.
If you're happy with PHP, use PHP. If you don't like PHP and want to learn something else, then learn something else. But no one builds or uses anything just "to be different", they use it because it helps them produce working code quicker.
> Like wearing some ridiculous outfit "to be different" and claiming its just fashion that the rest of us are too uncool to get.
The hipsters that you refer to don't think you're too uncool to get it. In fact they don't think anything about you at all. They're too busy making things.
I don't think Bill was targeting all Ruby users with his response. If anything, RoR is the poster child for what he describes as a "standard and time-tested" technology. As long as you're actually building something with your stack -- whatever it may be -- you probably don't fall into the "hipster" camp.
Right. Thank you. I wasn't targeting any language really. I just happened to remember some instances of Ruby hipsters who laughed at people using anything else and used it as an example. The language or whatever technology doesn't really matter, you can swap out Ruby for anything (literally anything), because the hipsters exist in every camp. Some languages are more well known for their hipsters but I wasn't trying to single out any one group so I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
Can you give me a concrete example of one of these hipsters? I'd like to know because I work at a company where we use rails and related tech exclusively, so we'd probably fit right into this camp.
> who are too cool to do things the standard, time tested way. It's one thing to go bleeding edge for the sake of experimentation and furthering your knowledge and skill but when you're off using some esoteric language or framework or whatever just to be different or cool then that's really... Well... Lame for lack of a better word.
If you're happy with PHP, use PHP. If you don't like PHP and want to learn something else, then learn something else. But no one builds or uses anything just "to be different", they use it because it helps them produce working code quicker.
> Like wearing some ridiculous outfit "to be different" and claiming its just fashion that the rest of us are too uncool to get.
The hipsters that you refer to don't think you're too uncool to get it. In fact they don't think anything about you at all. They're too busy making things.