Saying that feminism might be corrupted by grifters who do not actually seek equality between the genders would be controversial, but acceptable.
Saying that homosexual pride was important at the start, but now in most places gay people have the identical rights to straight people, and therefore gay pride is no more meaningful than straight pride would be controversial, but acceptable.
Missing either context by saying you're against feminism ("So you do NOT support equality between genders?") or that straight pride is the same as gay pride ("You do understand that 'pride' in this context is a rebellion against 'SHAME'. People are saying they refuse to be ASHAMED of being gay. Noone has ever told a straight person they should be ashamed of being straight") is not acceptable.
It is bigotry. There are left-wing bigots and right-wing bigots. And there are right wingers who are not bigots.
But there are definitely correlations and trends between bigotry and political beliefs...
You're arguing with the wrong person - you should reply to OP.
I completely agree with you. Notch is indefensible.
My argument was that there MIGHT be an acceptable way to have a conversation about what grifters are doing to feminism (without abandoning the whole concept)
Or there MIGHT be an acceptable way to have a conversation about whether gay pride should evolve as society evolves.
But not by saying you're against feminism, or by saying you're against gay pride without qualifications.
yeah, man.. I got muscled out of The Left for wearing masks too early in the pandemic, but I don't feel like it's controversial to say that Pizzagate and QAnon are "weird"
I'd still call myself a leftist. But like pretty much all rational people who've done any introspection at all: I'm now an alt right maniac because I'm willing to talk to people I disagree with and try to think things through from their perspective.
I masked up early since people wear masks in hospitals and people mask up in Asia when they're sick. That made me "anti-science"
I think free speech is actually important even if scumbags lie to people. I think that the government shouldn't have the ability to arbitrarily decide what is and isn't true from one day to the next, and they DEFINITELY shouldn't have this much soft power to shut down unwanted narratives through backchannels.
What's really funny about all this is that I can talk to my actual hard-right friends about this stuff, and they don't rage on me for being pro-trans or any other views they disagree about. We can talk about it, find the root of our disagreement, and then live in peace. The only Leftists I can get to that point with are others like myself who've been muscled out and branded dangerous alt-right lunatics.
