> This has nothing to do with the "camera maker's JPEG engine." The RAW file actually contains the camera's settings at the time of shooting, in other software they can re-use those settings to generate something very similar to the embedded JPEG because they're both set up the same.
You are right, but I'm very sorry to say that attempting to faithfully recreate the look of the manufacturers JPEGs will likely never be the goal of darktable (or any serious photographer for that matter). What happens when you buy a camera from a different brand? You will likely want to normalize the output between your cameras and not to have every other picture rendered with Canon's interpretation of the the scene and the rest with Nikon's.
It doesn't have to be "faithful" and I agree it's not most people's "goal", but here's why I still want it and appreciate that Lightroom does it very well:
- I've been shooting mirrorless, and consequently using EVFs, since the NEX 6 came out. When I take a photo, I have already seen it. I have a vague idea of what tweaks I want to make, so having to start from scratch just interrupts that. Of course, sometimes those tweaks will override basically every default setting, but that doesn't mean having them wasn't valuable
- I often shoot RAW not because I want to painstakingly develop each photo to perfection, but because I simply need more latitude to "fix things in post". Especially when shooting events in suboptimal lighting or when I need to raise the ISO to make sure a critical event gets captured.
Of course! I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. But these kinds of discussions are still important because if enough of us got together we could start a community initiative to develop this and either get it merged or maintain a live fork with these features.
Simply not true. That’s exactly what I want and DT already has a reset button by which I can undo those base edits anyway. It’s again, another thing that puts people off and is confusing as hell at first.
You are right, but I'm very sorry to say that attempting to faithfully recreate the look of the manufacturers JPEGs will likely never be the goal of darktable (or any serious photographer for that matter). What happens when you buy a camera from a different brand? You will likely want to normalize the output between your cameras and not to have every other picture rendered with Canon's interpretation of the the scene and the rest with Nikon's.