Stop generalizing the "country of origin" as if it does not matter like the Chinese Comunist Party isn't a threat to the world.
- There will always be a ruler, and which ruler is killing, slaving, censoring and selling it's own people as meat tools for foreign companies?
- China will kill, torture it's own people and their families if they think they are a thread (even if remote) to their government party (CCP).
- China put on a HEAVY surveilance tool and actually forced people to behave like they want using social credit
- China is actively removing ANY historical filosophies, tales, traditions, religions that could be a thread to the CCP's beliefs.
- Have you ever seen a CCP convention? Their plan is to remove the worlds countries boundaries in order to rule over everything from culture to politics and economics. Australia is suffering a lot on their hands, they even sent spies to patronize elections.
The social credit system has been acknowledged by multiple western media outlets to have been greatly exaggerated and misreported. [0]
To be sure, there are numerous areas in which the behavior of the Chinese government is concerning and unacceptable, but there is also an undeniable level of hysteria when it comes to China that is not applied to US Allies. (See: Saudi Arabia and the rest of the gulf states)
The social credit score is an interesting data point to gauge that how uninformed the west is about China. The credit score is not remotely about the everyday behaviors of its people, but about how credit-worthy a person which is the representative of a company, or even a local government entity. However, in the west, people are routinely joking about someone will lose credit score for whatever reason, even scholars like Piketty holds the same misinformed view. In the mean time, if you just have lived in China for one month, you know what is said in the west media is not true (you also know a lot of "evidence" of CCP documents from NYT are fake if know only remotely about how the party speaks and writes), and yet people in the west still believe in it, most of the time also with the belief that anyone likes China is either a bot/shill, or brainwashed person. My personal experience is that the level of uninformedness for both Chinese on US, and Amerian on China are not that different. What is different is the misplaced confidence in Americans about how informed they are about every topic in China. Chinese don't have that amount of confidence about knowledge of US.
> Stop generalizing the "country of origin" as if it does not matter like the Chinese Comunist Party isn't a threat to the world.
It's important to generalize in order to show that some people are having arguments about principles, and others hate China. Sometimes you mistake the latter for the former, and waste your time making principled arguments with someone who just wants to kill.
Or rather, which system is more actionable for the local public, the answer to that is ofc the US, if you can't even get your own country to not spy on its citizens either through corporate espionage or through direct gov espionage, what hope do you hold of tangling with foreign countries to coerce them to also not spy? If anything it seems hypocrite to do that!
Or maybe we should just support and adopt open source alternatives, so that the rest of the world doesn't get stuck into pointless geopolitical disputes?
>>> Twitter should bring back Vine so we have a US ran equivalent.
>> Or maybe we should just support and adopt open source alternatives...
> People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.
You misunderstood. I'm objecting to the either/or framing that implicitly says that something like Vine should not be brought back. If you want to create an open source alternative, go ahead and I hope you're successful. However, the chances of that succeeding are much smaller, therefore it's not a good choice to focus on to solve the particular problem at hand.
You know what mastodon/pixelfed/peertube needs to be "successful"? Users.
Users who are not willing to accept their data being mined. Who are not willing to be sold as eyeballs. Who are willing to pay a few bucks a year just to keep other smaller providers running.
The software exists. Unlike Vine, millions of people use it already.
They can't, but the reason has nothing to do with software license. You can write proprietary software and Google/Facebook/Twitter/Apple/TikTok still can't get your data. And Google/Facebook/Twitter/Apple/TikTok use plenty of FOSS software to run their platforms.
The privacy of your data is more impacted by where it is and who controls it, not the copyright license of the software that moves it around
You seem to be very good at pontificating while completely missing the overall point.
Of course the software license is not related directly with privacy and access control. But there is no way that a private company will be able to offer a global social network while keeping user privacy a priority. The moment that any single company becomes big enough, they will either exploit the data for their own benefit (like Google/Apple/Meta/Microsoft/Amazon) or they will be pushed into it by some government.
Our best alternative is to have not to trust any particular company, but to use federated/distributed services, and the easiest way to have that is by ensuring that we are supporting and adopting open standards and open source systems that can be hosted by many different players.
