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> its just not playing in the sandboxes everyone else is playing in

Where is it playing?



Special sandboxes with purple sand surrounded in velvet ropes only the cool kids know about. And with unlimited fresh lemonade, chocolate milk, and warm chocolate-chip cookies. You can almost see one during the winter solstice.


This is where the cool kids hang out- at this concert in Funland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tk5REKdZso


> where the cool kids hang out- at this concert in Funland https://www.youtube.com/watch...

YouTube?

No own ground? Sovereign space?

This is the same sandbox everyone else is in.


You have to pull to find it- we live in a push world now and that's why all you see is the same old crap- because people aren't searching new works out- they are just sitting around letting curators and algo's push it to them.


How do you "pull to find it"? If I search on DDG then an algorithm orders the results.

Do you expect me to type in random urls to see what comes up?


Not OP, but I feel like I come across more and more art house style stuff thats only on Vimeo. Which to be fair is still pretty mainstream.


There are lots of unique, fun subcultures in out of the way places an even on Youtube. But that isn't the same as counterculture.


Not the OP but I'll bite -- I've seen some incredible counterculture emerging out of what I like to term the IRC revival, or Discord communities. Discord and Roblox have fueled the communities creating a ton of the more interesting music I've discovered over the past year.


Yeah, but discord is centralized and comes with all the related problems. IRC you can host yourself and it's not really dead, being a protocol.


What is a protocol, really? In a literal sense, you can say only something that's IRC compatible is IRC. But in a more figurative sense, aren't Discord communities merely using Discord the way folks use to use IRC? Isn't Discord just centralized IRC, then, because that's how people use it and what they're using it for?

Centralization poses censorship and control risks that IRC doesn't, for sure. But it also adds ubiquity. That's key for a community.


Youtube apparently.

(This was sarcasm)


You are correct fine onion- This is youtube in 2084 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ3fOdorpCQ

Great sarcasm by the way- its going to inspire generations of smart asses with the smooth chill it was written with. Snarky and effortless.

Its like they were so confident in their sarcastic wit they had to include the parenthetical phrase- oh wait that was added out of fear of being misunderstood by the faceless crowd- quite the brave figure.

Build a 4k video platform and we'll use yours.


And it was good sarcasm. The enemy isn't you tube. The enemy is the algorithm.


I too would like to know this. I realize there's a rule one of the internet issue, but it's worth asking all the same.




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