Take it from their pension (and cut their budgets). Yes, that's wasted taxpayer money but I'm sure the police also view it as their own personal money.
Maybe they will pay more attention to hot heads and prevent them from getting hired in the first place.
> Another person's misconduct resulted in you getting your pension drained?
This happens quite frequently in companies with public stock and/or profit based bonus contributions. If someone fucks up and the product kills someone, it impacts everyone’s retirement that’s based on company performance.
This literally can happen. If the company causes enough harm lawsuits can drain their coffers and cause the company to go under or nearly so and restructuring to stay afloat temporarily can harm pensions.
There is fairly strong evidence of broad complicity among police officers in each other's misconduct, to the point that there are dozens of stories out there of new police officers joining some of the most prominent police forces in the country, seeing bad things happening, and trying to get them to stop—only to be told, persuaded, coerced, and threatened into shutting up or quitting.
> There's a big difference. Pensions are paid by the employer and retirement accounts are paid by the employee.
You make it sound like you're paid more if you get a pension!
If the company pays into a pension for or gives you the money which you then pay into a pension... guess what it's the same money just a slightly different setup.
I've got a pension I pay into myself, so it doesn't need to be your employer which does it.
Rethought from the ground up scares me a little. Yes I think some places need some fundamental changes but you don't want to try a rebuild on a system like that.
The police/prison industrial complex in the US is the worst in the world. It would be impossible to make it worse especially since its foundation is firmly rooted in racism (policy and history). We only gain from starting from scratch.
> The police/prison industrial complex in the US is the worst in the world. It would be impossible to make it worse
No, it wouldn't. It's not even, right now, the worst it's been in the US. (It may be the most controversial it's ever been, but that's because standards have evolved faster than it has, not because it has gotten worse.)
We have known issues with police violence and racism. We have insane police budgets and a militarized police force. We have a highly ineffective "war on drugs" that has destroyed wide swaths of our country.
I don't think it's controversial to say that the US has the worst police force and prison industry on earth.
> We have the world's largest imprisoned population, both by total number and per capita
Perhaps; we certainly have the largest reported imprisoned population by those standards, but we also know that there are several countries whose numbers really, really can't be trusted. But, I didn't take issue with “the US police and prison industrial complex is the worst in the world” [0], I took issue with “it would be impossible to make it worse”, since it manifestly has been worse in terms of both abuses within the system and unjust motivations for getting people into the system.
[0] which is not to say I agree, even setting aside potential issues with reporting of incarceration rates, because I'm not sure you've weighted situations where the “police” (and often the prison system, military, and other institutions) are heavily in league with organized crime, such as drug cartels, and directly involved in carrying out and covering up large scale murder on their behalf properly against incarceration rates.
I'm interested in some concrete examples of how we could make it worse. Do you mean we'll spend even more money? It seems that rebuilding the police force with demilitarization as one of the driving principles would make that outcome unlikely.
They’ll just increase their base pensions and budgets to calculate in the expected costs from the settlements. All this will do is destroy the budgets and pensions in one-off cases where the act is egregious enough for the cost to be 10x any expected costs.
