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"Have any of the leaks brought us anything productive?"

How about all the democratic uprisings in the middle east?

All the leaks are pure facts. The truth is always worth being told. Would you rather live in a dream world that really doesn't exist?



The truth is always worth being told.

I count this as a point against Wikileaks as an organization. Would you not agree they've engaged in a considerable amount of spin? At the very least don't you think that "Collateral Murder" was not simply a matter of "pure facts"?


Collateral Murder was one big unedited video sandwhiched between some editorializing. There was spin, but the pure facts were not obscured or omitted.


Interesting, I had read (although I can't find the link offhand) that the Collateral Murder video was, in fact, edited by Wikileaks.


I agree that Collateral Murder was definitely spun into propaganda, but I think it's important to mention that they also released the unedited version. The Collateral Murder edited version is a clear case of spin and an agenda, but it is mitigated by the fact that they also gave the complete version.

As for their strategy of slowly releasing the leaks, that's more gray to me. I can understand the rationale that it is so all of the leaks get the attention they deserve, but I also wonder how biased their decisions on what to release first are.

That said, I think they've done far more for revealing the truth than they have for spinning or concealing it.


Thanks for demonstrating a black-or-white fallacy and ignoring all my points. It's apparent that Wikileaks has a agenda and the truth is not it.


You implied that Wikileaks had not done anything useful. He gave the recent Middle-Eastern uprisings as a counter-example. It looks to me like he answered your point. It also looks from your previous contributions like you are a troll.


Giving Wikileaks any credit for those uprisings is a troll.




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