For more, notice other violinists
as happen to see them, other students and/or teachers, on TV, at concerts,
etc.
Don't need a camera or mirror.
You seem to be missing the point: I'm trying to indicate a solution, and you and others are angry enough at me to beat me to a pulp and throw my dead body to the sharks. Why? Because I gave an answer, a solution, instead of just dripping empathy without a solution.
The OP is not the first time I've seen violinists suffer from holding the violin wrong starting at the beginning. The woman in the OP is not nearly the first. E.g., Zino Francescatti suffered all his career because he held his violin mostly with just his left hand instead of his chin. And, there's a SOLUTION to this problem -- look at some good pictures.
Here I may have helped some beginning violin student children of some Hacker News readers.
I said over and over, look at some good pictures, e.g., if only from old record jackets, now some Youtube video clips, and lots of people here believe I am a monster to be thrown to the sharks. Bizarre.
People are not angry because you are proposing a solution, they are angry because you're implying that only a moron would run into a problem that many musicians run into. That it's somehow her fault, because if she hadn't been a moron and looked all those pictures you're talking about then it wouldn't have happened. You seem to be operating from a worldview where everything that is obvious to you must be obvious to everyone else. This worldview is incorrect.
And you're not really offering a solution anyway, you're offering a possible way the problem might have been avoided that didn't actually happen in reality. A solution would be a way to make sure all musicians avoid the problem, even ones with teachers that teach them bad technique. Or to somehow make sure no teacher anywhere teaches bad technique and is capable of picking it up in their students and correcting it.
You are also assuming that everything you know would be enough to protect you even if you practiced the many hours you need to get to a professional level, even though you yourself have never done it. I didn't feel like challenging this but you should ask yourself why you're so certain something is easy to avoid if you've never put yourself in the position to face it.
Lesson for others starting now: For what she suffered, from just holding the instrument, there is a really simple solution -- look at some pictures and now some video clips.
That's some progress for others on some of what she suffered.
It's simple progress, part of the first lesson in violin 101, even earlier than how to tune the instrument -- a violin needs to be tuned again about each 20 minutes of playing.
Sure, the progress is only for the first lesson in violin 101 and not a single, full path to a career as a violinist. Obvious.
You are reading into my writing assertions I did not make and then beating up on me for those.
Again, yet again, over again, once again, one more time, just dirt simple and potentially quite valuable: Beginning violin students need to know how to hold the instrument. Getting this correct at the beginning is important because, as in the OP, getting it wrong can hurt the whole effort for life. But getting it correct is just dirt simple -- look at some good pictures or, now, videos of some good violinists. Simple. Dirt simple. Potentially valuable for beginning violin students. Good contribution. NOTHING WRONG.
What IS wrong is your wildly over active imaginations and extrapolations.
I'm not being critical of the author of the OP. You are being critical of me, throwing me to the sharks, for NOTHING WRONG.
And for "Carpel tunnel and tendonitis" the situation in the OP seems to be related to problems holding the violin and more generally -- understand that if something hurts, then don't do that. It's not supposed to hurt.
There was an old newspaper story about why Heifetz retired from giving concerts. The remark was "Only two things go wrong with a violinist, their bow arm and their nerves. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with Heifetz's bow arm." Net, violin just ain't NFL football -- it ain't supposed to hurt, not even after decades.
For more, when pains start.
For more, notice other violinists as happen to see them, other students and/or teachers, on TV, at concerts, etc.
Don't need a camera or mirror.
You seem to be missing the point: I'm trying to indicate a solution, and you and others are angry enough at me to beat me to a pulp and throw my dead body to the sharks. Why? Because I gave an answer, a solution, instead of just dripping empathy without a solution.
The OP is not the first time I've seen violinists suffer from holding the violin wrong starting at the beginning. The woman in the OP is not nearly the first. E.g., Zino Francescatti suffered all his career because he held his violin mostly with just his left hand instead of his chin. And, there's a SOLUTION to this problem -- look at some good pictures.
Here I may have helped some beginning violin student children of some Hacker News readers.
I said over and over, look at some good pictures, e.g., if only from old record jackets, now some Youtube video clips, and lots of people here believe I am a monster to be thrown to the sharks. Bizarre.