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I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.


Will you defend my right to distribute IP I don't own? Or to vote if I am a felon? Or to share state secrets? Or to defraud people or slander people?

Do you believe that if the people on gab became state leaders that they'd protect your right to dissent?


There are exceptions to freedom of speech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...; some of the things on your list are on this and hence do not fall under free speech. Also, note that I don't necessarily agree with all of these exceptions (for example, my personal opinions to your questions tends to lean towards "yes, in many cases" regardless of their legality. In this case I would instead be fighting for your actions to become protected under free speech).


None of the things you mentioned are "rights", that's just muddling the language. Freedom of speech is a capital-R Right.


GP isn't recommending that congress ban Gab. They're just using their own free speech to condemn it.


It's not nearly cut and dry as this quote as defining what "right to say it" means in the age of the internet is a massive open question.


The right to say something is different than people giving material support to it. E.g., I will defend your legal right stand on the corner with a pro-holocaust placard. But anybody printing those placards or otherwise helping you is an asshole. I will happily tell them so, and I will refuse to do business with them. That's me exercising my rights of freedom of speech and freedom of association.

Freedom of speech isn't freedom from criticism. And it's also not freedom from any other lawful reaction. Anybody helping with Gab richly deserves criticism and shunning in the technical community.


Since we're doing quotes:

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

Hate speech should not be allowed a safe haven. Gab is a business and, as such, is not required to adhere to the first amendment.


>Gab is a business and, as such, is not required to adhere to the first amendment.

Why shouldn't businesses be required to adhere to the First Amendment if they function as the modern public square? The only reason they get out of that requirement is Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act, a law that exists to make sure that websites such as Facebook can't be held liable for how they moderate their site provided its content remains within US law.

This is the definition of privatizing gains, socializing losses.

>First they came for the [people most don't like], then they came for the [progressively larger fractions of the population]

This is why we keep the Overton window focused on scoundrels, like we are now. It never stops just with them.




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