It's frustrating to consider how that same standard applies to the USA.
We certainly have enough laws that everyone is a criminal and selective enforcement perverts the idea of justice.
Of course, I'm not saying things are equally as corrupt as they are in China, but we're definitely on the same spectrum. Maybe the difference is, in the USA, "The Party" includes both big business AND the government.
USA has an independent judicial system, investigations of government behaviour via congressional committees, oversight over consumer impacts via Bureau of Consumer Protection, oversight over corporate governance via SEC. China has none of this.
Now how about the 55+ autonomous regions in the US where only the richest get to afford their rights all the way up to a Federal appeal's court.
There are user experience problems impacting a large swatch of the population. I would bet that you aren't exempt from them even if you don't experience it, I'd also bet that would also have a great experience in China and not experience their problems either.
Is that true? I'd like to see some statistics. I've known many people who have 'accessed' state courts (like Hogan did, btw). It doesn't cost much to file a lawsuit. It all depends on the state, of course. Plus, there's no way that Hogan was a single-digit millionaire.
The states and territories have to be treated separately, they are all structured completely differently, have completely different checks and balances of different efficacy and have as many civil rights nuances as any separate country.
The luxury of the Federal umbrella isn't accessible to the vast majority of the population that becomes ensnared in the whims of any particular state.
It is always a spectrum. America is hardly perfect, but rule of law in the states is much more developed than in China. Especially constitutional law, which the CCP sees as a western abomination (so the Chinese constitution garauntees freedom of speech, religion, and so on, but is meaningless because the judiciary is not a check on the party).
Citizens of the People's Republic of China, in exercising their freedoms and rights, may not infringe upon the interests of the state, of society or of the collective, or upon the lawful freedoms and rights of other citizens."
So the constitution, even if followed perfectly, technically only guarantees such rights when they don't interfere with the interests of the state.
In principle, yes, but the proliferation of broadly defined crimes has made the formal guarantees much less valuable than they might otherwise be. In current US law, especially federal criminal law, prosecutors have a huge amount of discretionary power, and the discretion itself, i.e. who they choose to investigate and charge and who they don't, is subject to very weak judicial oversight (they can more or less only get in trouble for it if they're dumb enough to say on the record something like, "I looked for something to charge this person with because they're black"). And if a federal prosecutor does decide they want to charge you with something and is willing to spend resources on a fishing expedition, they're pretty likely to find some charge that will stick.
Well, one that got a bit of press recently is making false statements which I found out about when they got Flynn for it [0]. I thought it was interesting, because the test for lying is 'is it material to the case', so there might be no crime but if you mis-remember some relevant fact while explaining the situation to government a crime suddenly comes into existence. Particularly when you are up against entities that potentially have a better idea of your online and call activity than you do and have lawyers with a better understanding of what 'material' means.
But realistically, the problem is that America has more laws than anyone can read and has also developed a secret legal apparatus so has case law on the books that essentially nobody is allowed to know about [1]. Since an American can't possibly know what the law is, it seems like a stretch if they claim to be following it. Particularly if they do something off the beaten track like run a business, live overseas (byzantine tax system), talk to government officials (see above) or communicate with other people using the cell phones or internet (I think teen sexting laws in the US might be a federal crime, for example, which is sometimes a nasty shock to many minors).
Also note that for all this stuff the tests involve dangerous legal words like 'reasonable' and 'contemporary adult community standards', which we all think we know what we mean up until it turns out that they mean something slightly different to everyone and the lawyers have very different standards to on some topic. Everyone is unreasonable on something, hopefully there not on something there is a law about, eh?
I have repeated it 5 times in a variety of different tones. I still don't know all the law that governs a US citizen, and they would still likely apply to me if I was in America :P.
You've missed the point. If someone puts a bear trap just outside my door it is easy to avoid - just hop over it. That doesn't change the fact that there is a bear trap outside my door. The whole point here is there are so many laws on the books that just talking to a federal agent is potentially incriminating, which is what is being part of what is being acknowledged by pleading the 5th immediately and getting a lawyer.
Also, if I don't know about the bear trap, there is a very high chance I will get caught in it even though it is easy to avoid.
Well in my local city before (Troy, MI) it was illegal to spit on the ground. Apparently it was a law designed to be selectively enforced to allow police to target who they want.
True, the points raised here is that the cost is to most is prohibitively costly to make it not so.
Take the simple case of fighting a speeding ticket the cost of fighting it is so much above the cost of paying it that to most people there is not differnce to having a man in a suit say pay this or else without any evidence or compliance with a law in a dictatorship.
Parent law shake downs is another example of little difference between a patent shake down in a western country and an oligarch
Now obviously it isn’t doom and gloom and it’s all the same. But also for most people living in a democracy or a dictatorship there isn’t much impact to their lives
You say this like it's a good thing. The democrats are losing their minds because of all the judges being appointed by Trump. You still elect sheriffs and prosecutors like it's the wild west.
Instead of being beholden to nobody, the pillars of your justice system are held up by whichever lobby or wealthy individual wants to spend the most money on getting people elected.
This is silly. In China it's nearly LITERALLY both government and big business. You cannot be a big business without the government saying so, and most of the business leaders are party members.
This is a far cry from in the states, where while crony capitalism is an issue -- it isn't the actual law like in China when it comes to large firms and the amount of state intervention.
So true and yet what effective difference does that make to a person earning avg income to 10x avg income ?
What is the difference between that and oh say Halliburton
There is a distinction that say google/Facebook founders can take a position opposing the government so what is achieved ?
We certainly have enough laws that everyone is a criminal and selective enforcement perverts the idea of justice.
Of course, I'm not saying things are equally as corrupt as they are in China, but we're definitely on the same spectrum. Maybe the difference is, in the USA, "The Party" includes both big business AND the government.