> daz.com looks like a fing spam site to me; I've got Markov Chains that make sites that look more honest than that.
I'm sure the 60,000+ users that put it together over the last couple of years will be appreciative of that comment.
> If you want to make a living making sites like that you've got to spam the fk out of them so you get a lot of money fast, and be careful to make up phony identities so you can keep getting new adsense accounts and not get your new domains burned.
That was not the plan.
> Once you've got a good content gen system, the really interesting question becomes: "how do I create protective coloration so that I can pass site reviews?"
> daz.com obviously answers that one poorly
Well, for some reason it passed those 'site reviews' for the first couple of years with flying colours, and then overnight the ads stopped working and there is no way to get an answer out of google why that happened, given a multi-year business relationship that wasn't too much to ask for.
It's their right to disable those ads based on whatever the terms-of-service are, but the least they could do is:
(1) tell me about it
(2) do that without being asked
(3) point out which part of their terms-of-service was violated
Rumour has it that the site was blocked because it contains the word 'hard-core', which refers to a music genre, not to porn, but we've not been able to get that substantiated either.
Well, when I look at the site I see a random jumble of one-liners, non-sequitors and meaningless links. If you got 60,000 people to make that site, you really wasted their time (and yours.)
I mean, the top of that page repeats "trombone 0000 - 0000 delete" hundreds of times... That page just screams "this is trash"
there's no human voice obvious there, no attempt to contextualize or organized anything. I could scrape that stuff off some other sites and make something better looking in a week. Then I'd drop a few million spam links on it, expect to collect adsense for 2 months, then close the bank account.
> I mean, the top of that page repeats "trombone 0000 - 0000 delete" hundreds of times...
It does that 6 times, once for each member of the band. The '0000 - 0000' texts are placeholders for unknown dates, the delete links allow you to remove that entry in case it is mistaken.
All the edits are then piped in to a holding tank where they're verified before being made part of the page. This results in very little attempts to spam the site, on the 'no broken windows' theory, nobody ever made it through.
> there's no human voice obvious there, no attempt to contextualize or organized anything. I could scrape that stuff off some other sites and make something better looking in a week.
I believe you. But it has to start somewhere. Maybe you'd be scraping this one...
> Then I'd drop a few million spam links on it, expect to collect adsense for 2 months, then close the bank account.
I see.
I'm beginning to understand why adsense is the way it is, thank you for enlightening me.
As trollish as the guy you were responding to is, his criticism about the site's design doesn't strike me as totally inaccurate. I would encourage you to tweak it to, as he said, make the 'human voice' more obvious.
That's tricky because the whole idea behind daz is to register the 'graph', so the majority of the data consists of artists, bands, song and album titles, dates and connections between those.
It's like a giant network of musical collaboration, hard to give that a 'voice'. It's major use is to find music by bands that are related through one or more members.
I'm sure the 60,000+ users that put it together over the last couple of years will be appreciative of that comment.
> If you want to make a living making sites like that you've got to spam the fk out of them so you get a lot of money fast, and be careful to make up phony identities so you can keep getting new adsense accounts and not get your new domains burned.
That was not the plan.
> Once you've got a good content gen system, the really interesting question becomes: "how do I create protective coloration so that I can pass site reviews?" > daz.com obviously answers that one poorly
Well, for some reason it passed those 'site reviews' for the first couple of years with flying colours, and then overnight the ads stopped working and there is no way to get an answer out of google why that happened, given a multi-year business relationship that wasn't too much to ask for.
It's their right to disable those ads based on whatever the terms-of-service are, but the least they could do is:
Rumour has it that the site was blocked because it contains the word 'hard-core', which refers to a music genre, not to porn, but we've not been able to get that substantiated either.