"The lack of quantifiers is because I'm on a phone, and your claims are extreme. I'm not going to dignify all of them with a respond - a lot of the claims are hyperbolical and ridiculous."
Lol. First genuine, emotional response I've gotten out of one of you on a public site in years. Extreme? I've already made extreme claims elsewhere that were backed up by Singaporean eyewitnesses. I'm leaving extreme stuff out here. No, these are basic questions that I periodically ask but get no answers to. They're important given all the negative claims I've read and how corrupt police states focus on these categories. It's a canary that sounds the alarm. So, let's look at this.
re history
It's good you know about these things although they still won't release records on Coldstore, etc on your end. Gotta wonder what they'll say & how that will paint the regime. I'm sure you have an idea, though. Good to know the citizens are blogging different sides of things, some of which I read. Gotta ask how many times have movements against the regime in those blogging circles led to (a) a change of leadership or (b) a change of key laws leadership pushed? Does this happen a few times a year? Once a year? One a few years? It's a measure of whether your blogging and such is as effective as alternative press with individual freedoms to act on that.
"People in the US gives up more freedom than they think, and its history is far from being clean. The UK has libel laws that are not entirely unlike Singapore's, just to pick a few broad examples."
You actually picked bad examples. Post-9/11, U.S. gave up a lot of freedom Singapore-style in exchange for safety. Except fake safety in U.S. case given the threat. A small percentage run into police-state style behavior. Most of us have so much freedom that we can publicly mock or slander Presidents without harm on major news. Colbert did it to President in person. We regularly get evidence against us tossed out if it's obtained illegally. And so on.
Britain, I'll say simply, is a police state the U.S. is trying to imitate. So, your comparison showing a police state (Singapore) to be good was another police state and a free country trying to be one. Try active democracy like Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, or Switzerland. Low violence, despite two having guns for sure, with government providing for their people, good living standards, and them having plenty freedom. They're a better comparison since their people's culture is to actually give a shit about each other & the country like you Singaporeans do and U.S./U.K. don't (sighs). They just do it as democracies.
"Singapore is not without flaws"
BOOM! Great paragraph! Just what I was looking for. Any critique of Singapore results in half a dozen to dozens of nearly identical claims about how safe and great it is without details or references. Then, stuff like "everyone else, like America, is corrupt and gets you murdered" ignoring any details to the contrary. All of them say the same things like a group refrain. That worries me by itself.
Anyway, I have to fight to get honest admissions of problems from Singaporeans for whatever reason. Yes, that paragraph covers most of what I've heard in private conversations from Singaporeans. Bravo! Impressed with your honesty. I'll add that to my list which also has your country's good traits that you all are happy to talk about. It's just this other stuff is hard to get and I prefer to hear the problems directly from Singaporeans. I appreciate your help in getting the big picture more clearly in my head. Extra pieces that I'll try to corroborate with others.
Lol. First genuine, emotional response I've gotten out of one of you on a public site in years. Extreme? I've already made extreme claims elsewhere that were backed up by Singaporean eyewitnesses. I'm leaving extreme stuff out here. No, these are basic questions that I periodically ask but get no answers to. They're important given all the negative claims I've read and how corrupt police states focus on these categories. It's a canary that sounds the alarm. So, let's look at this.
re history
It's good you know about these things although they still won't release records on Coldstore, etc on your end. Gotta wonder what they'll say & how that will paint the regime. I'm sure you have an idea, though. Good to know the citizens are blogging different sides of things, some of which I read. Gotta ask how many times have movements against the regime in those blogging circles led to (a) a change of leadership or (b) a change of key laws leadership pushed? Does this happen a few times a year? Once a year? One a few years? It's a measure of whether your blogging and such is as effective as alternative press with individual freedoms to act on that.
"People in the US gives up more freedom than they think, and its history is far from being clean. The UK has libel laws that are not entirely unlike Singapore's, just to pick a few broad examples."
You actually picked bad examples. Post-9/11, U.S. gave up a lot of freedom Singapore-style in exchange for safety. Except fake safety in U.S. case given the threat. A small percentage run into police-state style behavior. Most of us have so much freedom that we can publicly mock or slander Presidents without harm on major news. Colbert did it to President in person. We regularly get evidence against us tossed out if it's obtained illegally. And so on.
Britain, I'll say simply, is a police state the U.S. is trying to imitate. So, your comparison showing a police state (Singapore) to be good was another police state and a free country trying to be one. Try active democracy like Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, or Switzerland. Low violence, despite two having guns for sure, with government providing for their people, good living standards, and them having plenty freedom. They're a better comparison since their people's culture is to actually give a shit about each other & the country like you Singaporeans do and U.S./U.K. don't (sighs). They just do it as democracies.
"Singapore is not without flaws"
BOOM! Great paragraph! Just what I was looking for. Any critique of Singapore results in half a dozen to dozens of nearly identical claims about how safe and great it is without details or references. Then, stuff like "everyone else, like America, is corrupt and gets you murdered" ignoring any details to the contrary. All of them say the same things like a group refrain. That worries me by itself.
Anyway, I have to fight to get honest admissions of problems from Singaporeans for whatever reason. Yes, that paragraph covers most of what I've heard in private conversations from Singaporeans. Bravo! Impressed with your honesty. I'll add that to my list which also has your country's good traits that you all are happy to talk about. It's just this other stuff is hard to get and I prefer to hear the problems directly from Singaporeans. I appreciate your help in getting the big picture more clearly in my head. Extra pieces that I'll try to corroborate with others.