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How long will this project be relevant considering that apple is planning on switching its processors from intel to some apple unique processor soon? If it is similar to the switch they made when switching to intel, nothing will be compatible.


The project will never really be relevant. If you have a serious need to run OS X probably already have OSX and a Mac.

If you need to simultaneously run Linux you install it in a VM.

This project like WINE for the most part will always be a "look what I can do" type project. It's never going to be a rosetta type system designed to bridge ecosystems as the VirtualBox / VMWare bridge already works quite well.


Having been disgusted by security holes in Preview and the lack of viable alternatives to Preview/Adobe Reader on OS X, I installed WINE and Foxit Reader on my Macbook Pro. (And used Automator to have it launched as an OS X app.) Google Chrome is ok for a PDF reader much of the time, but there are some really annoying bugs in its PDF functionality. (Which especially impact comics.)


Just out of curiosity, which security holes in Preview are you referring to?


Google OS X PDF security holes.



doesn't seem a situation so dire that it warrants being disgusted to the point of installing wine to me.

http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=apple+coregr...

no vulnerabilities in 2012, one in 2011 and two in 2010.


Note that Apple doesn't discuss vulnerabilities until after they are patched. Will unpatched ones even show up there?


so you are disgusted by something that may or may not exist?

CVE is public and collects both patched and unpatched known vulnerabilities reported by vendors and independent parties.


Why not X11 + xpdf?

Ugly but works.


I also have that set up as an Automator app. Interface isn't as good as Foxit.


After becoming somewhat disappointed with silverlight running in a win VM on linux (constant crashes, no reporting, buggy video driver usage) and being pleasantly surprised by the ease of running netflix desktop (http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/) - I would say this couldn't be any farther from the truth. It's at least one instance of wine that has brought a previous inaccessible web app to the linux mainstream.


I think WINE is relevant now, after very many years of work and bugfixes (Imagine the number of quirks they have found and addressed).


It doesn't really matter, it's a research project. And second of all your statement that nothing was compatible with the Intel switch is completely false. PPC binaries worked just fine for years.

Lastly, there aren't any plans to switch Macs to ARM, it's a rumor.


And even if there were, Linux runs fine on ARM, so this project could.


Is that confirmed? Last time I checked those were only faint rumors, and switching to a proprietary architecture is not gonna help their bottom line, unless they want to get rid of the PC / Laptop division.


did anyone else notice one of the thing they said on the what's at stake page? I think this my be their hidden motivation for doing this.

"Other proposals would require services like YouTube, Facebook, and Skype to pay new tolls in order to reach people across borders."


Yes, which makes innovation sad.


What are Blekko's thoughts on 'do no evil'? If they get popular, would they fall into the same trap that Google has, or would they stay pure?


This is an impossible-to-answer question. I do NOT speak for the Blekko company, but while they are small and making $100,000s or millions it is easy to say "We are free, no spying!" (same for DDG).

As soon as you take Blekko public and they are making BILLIONS and beholden to stock holders, they won't have a choice but to slowly roll that back just like we are seeing with Google.

The market won't let Google stay ambivalent; not with all that potential for profit.


You can check out our privacy policy and prefs -- we let you opt out of all ads, out of facebook integration, etc etc, so that we don't collect info about people who don't want it collected.


Does this mean that google would have to stop linking to some of the pages on its own website if the litigation goes through? ie: their 'secret books project' where they scanned thousands of books into their google reader database without first getting permission from the authors?


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