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It absolutely does. The model that came closest simply used that model twice in the same equation. One for the cup and one for the air.

Is this for real?

This is like someone with no background in physics or engineering wondering "can a LLM predict the trajectory of my golf ball". They then pontificate about how absolutely complex all of the interacting phenomenon must be! What if there was wind? I didn't tell it what elevation I was at! How could it know the air density!? What if the golf ball wasn't a perfect sphere!!? O M G

And then being amazed when it gets the generic shape of a ballistic curve subject to air resistance.

This speaks far more to the ignorance of the author than something mind boggling about the LLM.


Most amazement focused at LLMs comes from technical ignorance. Someone getting 100 lines of html that roughly conforms to their prompt is astounding to a muggle. To a web developer it’s a mild convenience.

To be fair, a golf ball's trajectory is hardly ballistic given its relatively large surface to volume ratio. Never-mind the dimples are there to cause a turbulent boundary layer to lower drag.

> I also find the reasoning in "Why track your sleep at all? If you’ve had a crap night, you’ll wake up tired." weird. That's the equivalent of saying "Why track your blood pressure at all? If you've had a problem with high blood pressure, you'll wake up with a stroke." Not that the sleep tracking on smartwatches seems to be worth much but I just don't agree with the logic.

Equating tracking sleep to tracking a diagnosed and dangerous medical condition seems ridiculous. Not even remotely equivalent. There are lots of things in life that aren't worth the effort of tracking. There was a recent post here about a guy who spent years meticulously tracking every aspect of his life so he could crunch all the data and learn something interesting about himself. He learned in the end that he learned nothing new worth knowing.

"Why track your tumor at all? If the tumor becomes malignant, you'll wake up dead". That must be equivalent too right?


The reason to track things is simply to make cool graphs, and that is certainly a very valid reason!

> He learned in the end that he learned nothing new worth knowing.

A valuable data point for me though!


You're right. The name is just classic gatekeeping and elitist, clearly. I am 100% certain that's why they chose it. If they really cared about inclusion, they would have called it research.io

I hope they ramp up their blocking of AI access. The last thing we need is providers like this getting hammered by AI

This is the low quality reddit-style garbage that gets upvoted on HN these days?


What are we supposed to talk about in this thread exactly? The developers of this model are evil. Are we supposed to just write dry comments about benchmarks while OpenAI condones their models being deployed for autonomously killing people?

Yes I'm sure it makes a very nice bicycle SVG. I will be sure to ask the OpenAI killbots for a copy when they arrive at my house.


While low quality, it is extremely important, potentially historically significant too.


If it is actually that important, then maybe more effort should be made so it isn't "low quality." Cannot be very important to them if they're disinterested in presenting an intellectually compelling argument about it.

PS - If you think I am not sympathetic to what they're raising, you're very much mistake. But they're not winning anyone new over their side with this flamebait.


Sometimes you throw a brick through a window, not because it's an intellectual thing to do, but because of the hundred people who'll maybe smash the next hundred windows after you do yours.

and then, because any supportive response to all that window smashing is informative as collective intelligence...

and then, bc that all validates that the order that all these clever rules were upholding is illegitimate.

It's how a very stupid thing stands in for a million smart and well-understood things that everyone is also trying to say.


You can say your piece about how you don't like OpenAI working with the US military on lethal AI without making Reddit style quips.


The HN of old is no more unfortunately. Things get up or down voted based purely on political alignment.


As programmers become intelligently irrelevant in the whole picture, you would see more posts like this


"This account belongs to a lazy person" true


I was just reading the model card...


True and simply vote it down.


mycall would also be to do the same


Noticeably yes much more than usual. It’s quite bad. I need to start blocking accounts.


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You are applying a problem which every AI company has, not unique to OpenAI. What about other nation-states making auto-AI robots which kill children, will you still choose to pick out OpenAI specifically? Maybe your concern is too late and dozens of countries already are training their own AIs to do that or worse.


This company sucks, what about all the other ones that suck hmmmmmm?

All of these VC funded AI companies are bad. Full stop. Nothing good for humanity will come of this.


You underestimate my capacity for broad hatred


What kind of violence have you experienced from striking up friendly conversations with strangers in otherwise normal circumstances? What are you talking about?


Guys, remember, when you set up your AI-controlled automatic machine gun in your front lawn, be sure to do it safely and pour a solid concrete foundation for it to sit atop of. We wouldn't want it to cause harm or injury by tipping over.


Who do you imagine the users were back when it was being developed?


People who were not that one programmer?

Even if you're a programmer, that doesn't mean you magically know what other programmers find easy or logical.


Yeah but now they're using npm to install a million packages to do things like tell if a number is greater than 10000. The chances of the programmer wanting to understand the underlying system they are using is essentially nil.


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