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I was working at MS at the time and actually had access to the source code (my project involved devdiv). I don't remember the exact details, but I opted for not adding any of my "private" knowledge to the post.

I agree with you that I prefer looking at optimized assembly with symbols rather than following code through files (which are usually filled with #ifdefs and macros).


Sebastian from MSRC here. I'll try to answer any questions


As someone in an unsexy safety critical environment, I would really love to work with a popular language that has a critical mass behind it, like in the case of the Rust community.

I would really like to hear your insights about the pros and cons of Ada 2012 and for even more critical contexts SPARK (The Ada subset not the Java framework).

Also from your experience do you have any insights on were would Rust outshine Ada?


Thanks for the article. I know you mentioned at the end of the article that there will be a future article with more details about your recommendation to use Rust. Can you expand on your reasons for this a bit?


The next article will be posted early next week so I'd hate to spoil it for you.



Great work. Only one improvement I would like to see 1) Switch the web design away from javascript (at least for loading) or, 2) Implement some command line interface in cargo for searching crates and displaying it's description.


Command-line search would be cool, for sure. Submitted! https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/925


What about requiring JavaScript even for the bare minimum of functionality? (That is, even loading the main page.)


I would agree with adding some <noscript> tags to at least print a message telling you to turn it back on, sure. Filed: https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/931


Another example is when keyboard apps need internet connectivity, it's a no-no for me.


> "privileged userland process" is a circular way of saying administrator. They claim administrator is "ring 3" or "admin ring 3" which is super-confusing...

It doesn't seem a circular description but the full technical one, at least from a processor privilege point of view.

And I find it pretty amazing, they are invalidating the whole purpose of the UEFI without needing to execute ring0 code.


Actually, there are many integrity levels for user's processes in Windows: untrusted, low, medium, high and system. (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb625963.aspx)


To quote Wikipedia[0] ("Architecture of Windows NT"):

> While the x86 architecture supports four different privilege levels (numbered 0 to 3), only the two extreme privilege levels are used. Usermode programs are run with CPL 3, and the kernel runs with CPL 0. These two levels are often referred to as "ring 3" and "ring 0", respectively. Such a design decision had been done to achieve code portability to RISC platforms that only support two privilege levels, though this breaks compatibility with OS/2 applications that contain I/O privilege segments that attempt to directly access hardware.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_NT#Ker...


Except MS has implemented software-based permission groups, which the person you're replying to pointed out. This really low level x86 stuff doesn't mean you can't have more granularity.

Windows has system, high, medium, low, and untrusted security levels that get mapped to security groups. A local admin is high, but not system, etc.


Indeed, but it isn't a "ring." A protection ring has a specific meaning and that meaning IS about "low level [CPU] stuff." For example the CPU can be made to support more than two rings, Windows NT and UNIX just only utilise two of them and then build software protections on top (OS/2 supported 3).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_ring


Don't see the point a blog requiring javascript enabled to load.


Hate how Google's blog engine does this too


You don't see the point of the blog of a javascript web framework requiring javascript?


I guess OP doesn't see the point of using a JavaScript framework for, per [0], "what should be text communicating a fucking message".

[0] - http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/


Probably because it would look odd if Meteor's own web site wasn't build on their own framework.

Plus if they fix a typo the page updates in your browser without reloading. Which is at least kind of neat. :)


Fair enough :).


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