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Totally agree!


Apple is trying to made ipad become a laptop by adding keyboard, pen, upgrading iOS (files app, drop-n-drag). It is funny because most people will go to work with a Mac/PC. Why should Apple try to make iPad become a Pc?

It is so late because Microsoft has Surface pro which runs windows long time ago. It is funny to see Apple adding file app, drag-n-drop features as improvements.


I actually think this is a major advantage for Apple.

While Microsoft is trying to pare down their desktop system while maintaining legacy code, Apple is able to add core features based on usage and demand. The iPad and Mac are like testing grounds for each other where both OSes can borrow good aspects from the other. Sometimes it’s easier to start from scratch and rethink the fundamentals rather than modifying existing ideas under constraints of the old paradigm.

Apple has MacOS already as a “fallback”. If Microsoft one day realizes that Apple’s tablet interface is the way to go, they would be seriously behind.


Actually it's the other way around.

Under jobs, Apple has vision clarity, iOS was going to be primarily consumptive, and MacOS was production. The two were not to meet.

MSFT on the other hand had grown too many OSes to deal with capably, an example being that xbox, windows, windows CE all had their own implementation of TCP (iirc).

So MS decides to fix their architecture, unifying and ordering all implementations. It's a huge under taking.

Apple without jobs is meandering towards the same ideas. But iOS is not designed for these use cases. The iPad Pro and Mac OS will not converge. The best that the iPad Pro will become is a power android variant.

Microsoft will keep making surface and surface like devices, which will be not face that limitation.

If anything, Apple will have to imitate the entire Microsoft style, and include a touch screen on the mac, along with stylus support.

Their product vision is lost without jobs.


I think it's about the next generation of users. Been wondering how to explain a mouse to my five-year-old nephew, "You push this pointer around to push buttons on the screen." "Why not just push the button?" Every answer I try to formulate doesn't even convince me.


CS:Go is there for that question.

For actual work, selection, dragging, drawing - the arm/wrist do a very good job, better in more complex use cases than fingers.


I actually think its a better approach than try to tack on two OSes to one piece of hardware.


Lots of us really like the 2-in-1 concept and find it incredibly useful. Last time I bought a non-touch laptop, I quickly realized my mistake and took it back for a touch-screen model.

Otherwise, the long-term plan is to transition between the old Win32 API and the new Windows Runtime (which are both part of the same OS).

The transition to the UWP isn't going very well at the moment, of course, but Microsoft didn't know how it would go when it started. However, it's a long-term play so ask me again in 10 years.

If Microsoft hadn't made the move then it would clearly be a legacy OS. As it is, Windows 10 is a cloud-integrated, continuously-updated mobile OS with sandboxed apps maintained from an app store, just like iOS and Android. It just has rather too much of the old stuff hanging around as well...


> It is so late because Microsoft has Surface pro which runs windows long time ago.

Which is why the market is still wide open.


Ah, 2005 and the days of WinCE, with a start menu on the HTC Apache. How we've progressed.


I sell twitter and Instagram followers for 5 years. I made 15000 usd in average ( before tax).


curious what your site is? do you have any email I could reach out?


sorry bro, I can not say it. By the way, I think people think this is a gray business so I am not proud of it. I do it just for my living expense. Iam studying iOS app development since I don't want to do gray zone business. just post question here if you have, I will try to answer.


Is your site similar to sogro.co and socialenvy? is that 15K/month or year?


I think it is not similar. I think followers that I buy and sell are fake. It is 15,000 usd per month, but they included twitter, instagram, facebook, youtube, etc... services.


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