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For readers not in Washington, there is currently legislation being worked on that is essentially a millionaire's tax, (simplified as) 10% income tax on income over 1 million dollars, inflation adjusted.

There are a few very angry, emotional, and vocal opponents of this in most corners of the internet, although very few of them actually make a million dollars and there are many million+ income people supporting this.

Demographically, there are over 3 million households in WA, and only 20k of them would be affected.


The bigger news is that it would be WA's first-ever income tax, along with the tax on capital gains income they just introduced. You can look at any historical example of introducing income tax in the US to see that the rates always expand to lower brackets over time.


Ahh, another favorite talking point. Yes, because the tax burden is already carried by the people you claim to worry about


Those people you wanna tax will just wfh from another state. Then you'll wonder why tax revenue is down and why no one is hiring.


People aren't leaving Seattle to save a small amount in taxes every year


I lived in the Seattle area and would be affected by some of these taxes. I moved to California recently. WA lost its tax advantage, so If I’m now going to be paying the same taxes, I might as well enjoy better weather and schools for my kids.


So, you _already_ moved, _for non tax reasons_


Maybe the opponents consider it a foot in the door; a wedge that can be expanded gradually to include lower tiers at lower percentages AKA the beginning of a WA State Income Tax. There are not few 400k households in Seattle.

The majority of states have one so it's not that big a deal, but it'll be less often said "I'm going to turn down this higher SF offer for Seattle b/c of lower COL...".

I'm not sure where the next refuge will be. Austin? Memphis?


And there is such small thing as state constitution that explicitly forbids any income tax.

Current government is using it as toilet paper, first by introducing capital gains tax, and now income tax.

I see in another comments though that you argue in bad faith by dismissing opponent arguments as “small amount”, “talking points”. If you don’t have anything real to say, don’t bother to answer.


The state constitution does not forbid an income tax. We both know it is more nuanced than that. Don't accuse me of bad faith in the same comment that you present an inaccuracy in the form of simplification that suits your argument


There is nothing nuanced about that. You look into 2 places and see read it for yourself. Stop spreading lies.

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https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=1.90.100

RCWs > Title 1 > Chapter 1.90 > Section 1.90.100

RCW 1.90.100

Personal income tax prohibition.

Neither the state nor any county, city, or other local jurisdiction in the state of Washington may tax any individual person on any form of personal income. For the purposes of this chapter, "income" has the same meaning as "gross income" in 26 U.S.C. Sec. 61.

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https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...

Gross income defined (a) General definition Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items: (1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items; (2) Gross income derived from business; (3) Gains derived from dealings in property; (4) Interest; (5) Rents; (6) Royalties; (7) Dividends; (8) Annuities; (9) Income from life insurance and endowment contracts; (10) Pensions; (11) Income from discharge of indebtedness; (12) Distributive share of partnership gross income; (13) Income in respect of a decedent; and (14) Income from an interest in an estate or trust.


Similar thing in California. And good ol' fronttunner for president Gavin Newsom is actively trying to kill it.

Just to remind you that he's still indeed an Establishment Democrat. He won't drown us in fascism, but he sure isn't fighting for the working class.


Fwiw I thought it was pretty self evident in your OP, and additionally that England is small enough to be a sufficient answer


I don't think OP is glad people came around on it


Their own data reports that they are holding tens of thousands of citizens who have committed no crimes.

They have murdered people in broad daylight and allowing many more to suffer and even die in their facilities.

People are not being hysterical, and the people who are downplaying or ignoring this are showing that they are in fact evil.


Tens of thousands of "citizens" or "residents"?

There's an important distinction here.


Citizens. US citizens


First they came for the "residents", and I said nothing, because there were important distinctions to be made...


So in other words your claim that they are holding tens of thousands of "citizens" is fabricated. cool, thanks for clearing that up.


I'm not the person you think you're replying to.

However, since you're here: etymological arguments are really not the win you should be chasing.


> Their own data reports that they are holding tens of thousands of citizens who have committed no crimes.

A source would be nice


It's easy to not see anything if you willingly close your eyes


Or what Upton Sinclair said.


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What do you use to manage other languages? Asking because asdf is basically a multi language version of a ruby version manager rbenv


One issue is gems which are locked `ruby < 4.0` which will now require updating, and releasing 4.0 instead of 3.5 was only done very recently.

For a more concrete example, the grpc gem locks Ruby versions (< 3.5), and they refuse to change it. So until they support the next Ruby version, we could test ruby-next by testing with a preview release. This worked for 3.4 and 3.5, but now doesn't work with 4.0 (bundler resolves 4.0-preview2 > 3.5, whereas we are able to do 3.5-preview1).

So unless I feel like doing a lot of grunt work (which I don't), I can't even test Ruby 4 in our app until they release a new version. And while I recognize this is an issue with the gem, it is a consequence of choosing to do 4.0.


For future readers, I mistakenly referenced the grpc gem; I was thinking of the gem `gruf` which is a grpc framework


You work in a large Ruby codebase that _isn't_ Rails?! Are you hiring??


I was assuming Stripe, but would love to hear of others!


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