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Wow, shocker, a company will not indefinitely store your data for free.

Removing free user data is unfortunate, but understandable that it might eventually come to that.

A monthly subscription to regain access is questionable to me, since it'd mean they are still storing the images. A one-time fee could be justified for the cost of recovering the data from cold storage, but risks incentivizing intentionally luring in users then unexpectedly holding their data as leverage to have them pay up as a business model.

Claiming a user can pay to recover their photos, while not actually having anything to restore, is misrepresentation.


Not only that, but there is a cost for retrieval and transmission especially if you are in cold storage. It's much cheaper to just mark it for deletion than it is to get it back.

If it was just that, I'd be okay-ish with it (even though it started out as a service). But pushing a monthly subscription for a 1-time action? Man.....

If it requires nothing more than a click to cancel, it seems like you'd be happier in life if you viewed such a thing as merely a two-step process (signup, get what you need, cancel immediately) rather than a serious commitment to spend $5 a month for the rest of your life. Unfortunately, everyone in business is now required to do this 'wishful thinking' that people will commit to everything. I laugh sometimes at items that Amazon hilariously suggests that I "Subscribe & Save" to!

When signup is one click, and cancellation requires a phone call... then I'm right there with you with the pitchforks!


Haha, that's fair! You know how it is – I'm not mad, just disappointed :P

You just described most app purchases these days, sadly.

[k]


It was happy to use it to make profit though...

If they can't, then why did they offer to (or at least give the impression that they were going to)?

Well they did store it for free, they are just holding it hostage. They didn’t say “pay or we’ll delete it”, they said “pay if you want it” and they’ll probably continue to store it for free continuously until you pay.

Well, they didn't according to the article, the storage was empty. But the user discover that only after subscribing.

Well, it sounds like they actually will, with the intent of using it to lure you in as a customer.

I don't think your comment represents the situation very well. They allowed the user to upload the data and they're storing the data regardless, right?

That's fair push back. In defense, my comment was motivated by the OP's assertion (multiple times) that this is merely an example of corporate greed. I don't know what the original user-agreement was, but it seems to me that common sense would say that you have to make money some way. If this business at one point offered a free service and at some point market pressures showed them that wasn't going to work, so they needed to do something else to remain solvent. Egress is not free, so merely uploading and storing is not an argument for free retrieval.

I feel like this headline is a bit over-stated. There is not a ton of evidence it was about a jailbreak, and neither was there evidence that is was about retribution.

If you have played Minecraft, you have a pretty good idea what kind of things Perlin Noise can generate. Maybe not the structures but definitely the terrain is generated by Perlin noise. (At least it was in the 1.4.7 days when I was in the code.)

What about all the employees who had options at SPCX and are now > millionaires?

The stakes are never higher when the stakes are so low.

I think a lot of these are because Apple has built animations into their products as first-class citizens, but that means that they need to somehow figure out how to compose them well. (Which obviously is a rather difficult problem to solve!) In my experience, you end up spending a lot more time trying to get all of the animations to work well together than you do on creating the actual UI, and that time is just not worth it if your start and end states are beautiful and intuitive. There's also the cross-UI-framework tax that has come up since Apple has allowed mixing SwiftUI and (App|UI)Kit, and animations are part of that.

I'd slightly rephrase that as "Apple has recently started building pointless animations into their product, instead of sticking to meaningful animations like they were doing since unmemorable times".

Old Apple knew not to overdo things.


That’s even smaller then!

If you re-use the Hermes agent, what are the cost and security implications? One Docker container per-customer sounds like it would be really expensive. Are they started on-demand, or run 24/7? What keeps users from using the agents for general purpose tasks, protects against prompt-injection, etc?

> what are the cost and security implications?

Cost is the token usage and container uptime.

> One Docker container per-customer sounds like it would be really expensive.

The advantage is per-user memory and self-learning. For context, Claude Managed Agents uses one sandbox per session: https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/managed-agents/environme....

> Are they started on-demand, or run 24/7?

24/7 (best for customer-facing chat products).

> What keeps users from using the agents for general purpose tasks, protects against prompt-injection, etc?

Users define their agent with a system prompt, tool definitions, and skills (which separate a media generation agent from a people search agent). We use Openrouter which has a prompt injection detection feature: https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/features/guardrails/prompt....


I'm kind of surprised the demo UI is macOS. Are they mainly using Apple products to develop these things?

The more advanced devs all use apple laptops, sure.

All the Ai related companies use Macs.

Who isn’t?

I'm slapping debian on any crap hardware around, but that's just me with different ideological standards.

Even better to slap Debian on a 2nd hand ThinkPad :)

Also, Mario Zechner wrote libgdx and his first book on a netbook IIRC.


Holy cow. I know I'm not supposed to be surprised given the memory shortage, but that is insane level.

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