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Another Chuck fan I see. I'm glad to see I'm not alone.


Anyone move completely over to Linux for gaming? What is the experience like and what are you using?


I am, I have an Nvidia 5070 Ti, Aurora for my OS (from the same people as bazzite, but I'm a light gamer so I'm fine using flatpak steam/heroic/etc). the only problems I've faced are

- occasionally an online game breaks and it's usually fixed within a day or two. for example at some point a Battle.net update broke the launcher under Wine some time last year, then for a while Overwatch would intermittently crash once every few sessions. I haven't gamed on Windows in years so I can't even compare anecdotally, but I suspect Windows is probably slightly more stable with live service games. I've never had any issues with a single player game, period. (YMMV)

- DX12 performance is 10-20% worse on Nvidia. This should be improved Soon (TM) - I think the last piece is https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/tree/descr...

- Some anticheats block Linux - the only times I've switched over to windows in the last year have been when some friends wanted me to play Marathon with them

- Running 'sidecars' alongside your games or modding works but is generally more of a hassle with wine

things I didn't expect to work but do:

- Game streaming with Sunlight works fine to Samsung TV via the TizenOS Moonlight app

- Nvidia had suspend issues for a year but those have all been sorted out the last few months


How is the support for mods and trainers like WeMod? I use them sometimes when I just don't want to grind.


Yeah, I completely ditched windows about 3 years ago now and I haven't looked back. My taste in games definitely helps, I mostly play indies and older games.

I've only run into a few big issues. One is that gamepass doesn't work at all (of course) so I cancelled it when I switched, but between price increases and BDS I would have cancelled anyway. The other is anticheat like everyone says, but the only game I've actually run into this with is Fall Guys (I only play this every few months and it usually works with some fiddling but sometimes it doesn't). Other multiplayer games like Rocket League and all of the Valve ones have been fine.

The only issue I can remember running into on a steam game was a crash in Civ V multiplayer that had an easy to find workaround. Outside of steam I've had a few small issues with older games from gog like Arcanum and KOTOR2, but my understanding is that these are fairly buggy on windows too.


I moved about 4 months ago to Bazzite on my nvidia RTX 3080 desktop.

What worked fine:

- All steam games I tried (mostly indie but I did play Cyberpunk 2077 beginning to end and Satisfactory) all with 0 issues

- Overwatch over battle.net

- Accessing SMB partitions is easier than windows (although it is a bit weird how KDE handles it)

What caused problems:

- Linux doesn't support HDMI stream compression so you can't do 1440p @ 165hz with HRD on over HDMI 1.4, so I turned down to 120hz (my monitor doesn't have HDMI 2)

- battlenet is a bit annoying to set up (needed to mess with proton version) and sometimes craps out when I launch it. One time after an update it completely broke and I had to reinstall. Never had I to do any CLI stuff to fix this

- I ran into a problem that caused toast notifications on both steam and battlenet to memory leak and take several gb of ram and high CPU. Disabling toast notifications fixed the issue, I believe this has been fixed upstream in Bazzite/KDE.

- I couldn't get HDR working on Overwatch, apparently you need some proton CLI args to enable it and I just didn't want to bother.

- Once after a big update Overwatch completely crapped out and I had to reinstall the game. I could actually launch the game but it felt like textures were missing or shaders weren't compiled, it was very weird.

Overall I am very happy with no plans on going back to windows. Apparently the main report of problems are people using laptops with mobile nVidia GPUs, and older nVidia GPUs (1000 series I think).


Overall experience is very good with AMD graphics. Most games run on Steam out of the box. There are also emulators for all the systems I've wanted to use. I use Faugus Launcher for other stores like BattleNet and Epic Games (Magic Arena).

For the most part the games just work, it's more system issues that I've run into where Linux suspend mode and the audio stack can be a little flaky and required Claude to diagnose and sort out.


Nvidia has gotten a lot better over the last 2 years as well. There are still driver bugs that are somewhat annoying. It's also annoying that the driver is out of kernel. But otherwise, the open source nvidia by nvivia works just fine.


Nvidia for me on Linux (Fedora 43 - KDE Plasma) for about half of the titles I play works flawlessly, although the other half of the games seemingly have issues.

I encounter a few games with frame pacing issues, otherwise not present on Windows. Shader compile time is longer than on Windows. Occasional crash in some games, etc.

Windows has issues too. It's not perfect, although they are different issues to Linux.

Ryzen 5800x3D RTX 4080 64GB DDR4 @ 4000 M/T's


Do Epic titles even work on Linux? I thought I read somewhere that Tim Sweeney hated Linux and does whatever possible to make sure Epic's games like Fortnite don't run on it.


I gave up trying to fix issues with hibernate and audio on linux. I just leave my machine on overnight

love linux but the audio situation has always been bad.


The last 2 LAN parties we didn’t play anything that didn’t work extremely well on my AMD CPU + NVIDIA GPU Pop!OS Linux workstation.

And I didn’t expect: VR streaming works flawless, too. I just had to buy a WiFi 6 usb dongle.


I've been gaming on Linux (Fedora) exclusively for ~10 years, and in that time able to play any new release that interests me so long as it doesn't have egregious client side anti-cheat.


Why is there no off button for AI? What if I just don't want it?

Your commitment to quality is skin deep.


We have seen many stories like this. Some doubt the authenticity, but what is evident is that these things are happening again and again with impunity. Perhaps you don't think the situation is bad enough, or the details are exaggerated.

However, the fact that a man can be pulled of the street despite having legal status should be alarming. You don't need to care about the Irishman, but you should care about justice.


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I I don't remember anyone harassing people on the streets based on their skin color, and shooting American citizens for exercising their rights.


I must have missed the episode where Babu spent months in a concentration camp despite having his paperwork in order and doing nothing wrong.


I'm afraid I don't since I was too young back then, and never really watched Sienfeld, but man oh man, that sounds terrible.

Perhaps we've been living a lie this whole thing.


> The reality is the federal gov has been aggressive in its enforcement for decades. ICE took a break during the Obama and Biden years for some reason.

ICE was created in 2002 (24 years ago). "The Obama and Biden years" make up a full half of ICE's existence.


> ICE took a break during the Obama and Biden years for some reason.

This is simply not true.


> he reality is the federal gov has been aggressive in its enforcement for decades.

Sure there has been enforcement, but nothing that comes even close to what we're seeing today (except for Trump 1.0 when CBP were separating parents and children and putting them in cages; today we have that plus a whole lot more including murdering citizen observers). ICE should never have been created (more of the fallout of the Americans surrendering so much of their civil liberties while panicked about 9/11), but at least it was a regular accountable law enforcement org and not a paramilitary terrorizing American cities (which technically makes it a domestic terrorism org).


> ICE should never have been created (more of the fallout of the Americans surrendering so much of their civil liberties while panicked about 9/11)

ICE was created by stripping some non-enforcement functions out of INS (those became functions of Citizenship and Immigration Services), all of the lack of civil liberties that was found in ICE when it got that name and was put under DHS were already present when it was INS.

The idea that the name change was the point of origin of the problem is a story created in the last couple years by peopel who never paid attention to immigration policy before Trump's first term looking for a convenient excuse that is both systemic (rather than tied to a particular recent administration) and old enough to provide an excuse to make it unnecessary to discuss why certain problems persisted during the Biden Administration between the two Trump terms, but also recent enough to support a narrative that despite being systemic, it is a fairly new systemic change and reverting returns to a known good state that is recent enough that it is not out of touch with modern needs.

The problem is that, if you've paid any attention to immigration policy prior to Trump's first term (especially if it was both before and after the creation of ICE), its pretty hard to either consider the creation of ICE a significant sea change or the prior state a known good state.

The real sea change in the style of enforcement was Trump 1, and it was only partially unwound under Biden as a political decision that preserving a tough border image would avoid an electoral cost by appealing to swing voters with whom Trump's demagoguery on immigration had resonance but who were skeptical of some of his other policies, not because of some inherent structural change created when INS was reorganized into ICE that made ICE inherently and uniquely and incurably bad. But though the sea change was later than the "ICE is only 23 years old, and we can just go back" narrative suggests, the state before the sea change, much further back than the creation of ICE, also wasn't great.

Note that I support disbanding ICE and radically restructuring immigration enforcement alongside restructuring the immigration laws; but not because ICE was only created in 2003 and we had something workable before that, but because the system was broken well before 2003, and only avoided becoming a total shitshow up until Trump 1 because of how prior Administrations used (and in some cases exceeded) the broad discretion given them within the system to prevent that, not because the system was well-designed, well-structured, or resilient. And even then, it worked pretty badly, but in ways that the people not intended to be subject to it could (and did!) mostly ignore.


This is the same guy that forced XBOX to increase profit margins to 30% and therefore destroyed any hope that Xbox would be a legitimate choice for gamers going forward.

This is the same guy that shoved AI down the throats of millions of Windows users that forced me to just turn off Windows updates and add bazzite in dual boot.

I remember a long time ago I was talking to an executive that worked at a startup that was eventually acquired by Cisco. After the acquisition, the executive team got coaches to train them to be "inspirational" leaders. One thing that was common was adding a quote from say Marcus Arelius in the signature of their emails to make them sound wiser.

We need to stop this hero worship. Microsoft built a moat, and capitalized on it. They used their connections to block others from coming into the fray.

I don't care what their theory of success is, their definition is cancerous; a malignant one.


Interesting. So Steve Ballmer saved Xbox from the RROD, and then went on to appoint a dude who would go on to make Ballmer even richer. And the new guy then goes on to destroy Xbox once again.

I wonder what this will look like in 20 years from now.


I'm no MS lover, but this is the same guy that increased the MS share price tenfold.


He temporarily increased MS share price tenfold, at the cost of jeapordizing the long term viability of the company.

In 10 years we may well look back at Nadela as the "the man who killed Microsoft" or at least "the man who destroyed Microsoft's position as a top 10 tech firm", and shareholders wont be too happy.


When WSL/WSL2 was released and there was a big open source push I actually thought they were righting the ship, then this AI stuff came along (and Win11 UX departure and "Free" OS & ads everywhere) and realized it's the same old MS.

I laugh because if this guy had any foresight, he wouldn't have to beg users to love AI, it would sell itself.


To be fair - he destroyed all Microsoft except Azure


I wonder about that, and decided that Azure is infrastructure first, and software second. MS is destroying/has destroyed their ability to write software, but are still maintaining infrastructure.

But I wonder how many people will be using Azure once the market moves away from windows software. I don't think they have any edge other than windows tie-ins (e.g. Azure ID)


It's hard to destroy a flaming pile of trash.


Well, this is a good example of "Shareholder value != customer value".


Als also shareholder value != Positive effect on society


You know what? I bet if you got rid of stock buybacks, there'd be more consequences for making a shit product.


Same guy who touted Microsoft's progress on climate goals, then went all-in on AI.


Pretty much all of the major tech stocks have risen by 10x since 2014.


> I'm no MS lover, but this is the same guy that increased the MS share price tenfold.

How does that improve things for customers? This ridiculous affinity for increasing the stock price at the expense of all else is why so many tech products are degrading. Google, MS, Apple, etc.


the CEO answers to shareholders, not the customers. being a public company is a bitch…


They don't have to. They choose to. All sayings about it being a requirement are wrong.


Pretty much all tech stock has 10xed over the past decade. However, the fact that this is being used to justify anything is a problem. The financialized economy has become so powerful that it can treat the real economy with impunity.

If there are no consequences to prioritizing shareholder value at the expense of product utility or ecosystem value, then we are going to get less value from the products that we purchase over time.

This is why the economy doesn't work anymore. We've been swimming in toxic waters for so long that we think it is completely normal to prioritize shareholder value at the expense of everything else; greed is good.


Finish your thought. MS share price tenfold - what do you conclude from what? What did you want to say?


> Finish your thought. MS share price tenfold - what do you conclude from what? What did you want to say?

So he did his job.


Is it a software and infrastructure company or an investment scam?


The only thing the elites and rich care about are what people think of them, they do not care about the health of people or how society is dealing with inequality; no they just want you to think that they are smart and worthy of respect.

Hence why they spend so much time on vanity.

Please don't give it to them. They are not special. They are not unique. The vast majority of people on this Earth can do an equivalent job if you gave them the same amount of resources (in this case a monopoly worth trillions).


Amusing ourselves to death was such an eye opener for me when I was 19. After that I never took the news seriously.


This was never going anywhere and if the Indian government thought it could get away with effectively installing spyware, then they were just self indulgent.


Bugging communication devices has long been a government / law enforcement tactic, mostly enabled by telcos via ITU, which since its inception has been a willing collaborator.

Ex A: Ind x ITU, https://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/india-itu-res...

Ex B: China x ITU, https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1677/


It has been, but getting Apple to do it was dumb. They could've just used a government app that everyone has to use, and put the bugging in there.


this glosses over the point that they could have just accomplished that with already effectively required UPI apps


I really just don't want this. I've been a Windows user for many years, and I'd be fine if everything still looked like Windows 10 with just security updates. I don't want more features. At all. Why can't they do what MacOS does? Add nothing new, and just change up the look every now and then?


Apple adds new things. They're just good things instead of this.


True ownership of Software is only in Open Source. Unless you can change things yourself in that software, it isn't really ownership.


Black goo of doom?


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