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I work for a bank and Im basically just an ai user now. Honestly its like pulling teeth to get anyone to look at your code here. Im just on hackernews lol

Major or regional? This is alarming beyond words.

Major, big big major, not just me either. How is it alarming beyond words? If I said "Im an emt and I just ask the AI everything" now that would be alarming beyond words.

I have a buddy who is a cop and he tells me that they use AI to write reports and even to check if their reason for pulling someone over will hold up later. As annoying as it is in SW, people using AI outside of SW is much more alarming.

Now thats alarming!

Because it's a bank and apparently a big one.

do you think the other big banks arent doing this? Bank jobs are pretty broad, theres a ton of code getting written here.

I'm less concerned about the code and more concerned that you said there's no culture around reading it/reviewing it...at a bank.

If anything screws up, that's people's lives being messed with, potentially in a way none of the engineers on staff know how to fix. If I were an actuarial in that environment I'd blow a valve.


Its a big bank, Im not working on anyones debit account. Me and everyone Ive ever seen here is working on internal tools, nothings going to wipe out anyones savings. Also, yeah, its a bank, I hit the "im going to blow a gasket" line so long okay I cant even remember what things are supposed to be like.

It's alarming because AI produces crappy software, and I would rather not lose money because banks are turning out slop with AI.

well I have bad news for you about probably every bank by now

im not sure what about this makes it left reactionary but I suppose left reactionary would be the term

you could not waterboard an admission of bad taste like this out of me

it also assumes humanity will be better off because people can vibe code stuff, which is a massive stretch already.


sure, a bunch of people will lose jobs, but at that trade off everyones dog can vibe code Royal Frog, a 4 level unwinnable game where play as king frog, eating peasant flies.


sorry, no jobs at the staffing agency, those are AI. Feel free to walk into a burger king, show up everyday, and flip those fries for minimum wage until you die. Man up brother, other people make it work. Sleeping on the street, well half the year its not even snowing.


You clearly haven't bothered to even look, so why should I even believe your concern is genuine?


The last study I know of that measured the conversion rate from temp to perm employees showed about 15%-30% success… and that was well before the gig economy really took hold. So you’re looking at 4 or 5 temp placements to reliably get a probably underpaying job when very few white collar workers could survive long enough to make the end of a lease, or sell their house, while on a temp job salary. It’s a viable option for a 25 year old that could couch surf for a few months, but not for a mid-late career professional, or anyone with a family.

You can give any complex problem a simple answer if you ignore enough factors.


> Meanwhile three different orgs inside Microsoft all own something called "Copilot" and none of them talk to each other.

I audibly winced


There are in fact almost 30 products with Copilot in the name now. Though they've seem to have cut a few recently like the sales version


extremely cursed userbase sometimes


I think having guardrails on your AI to not be able to produce this stuff is good actually. Also, Elon encourages this behavior socially through his posts so yeah he should face consequences.


lord some of the people on this site need their hard drives searched.


I was once closer to s free speech absolutist, but this has always been where that discussion leads. The lines were clearer decades ago because someone who interacted with CSAM was closely involved and their harm was easier to see in totality. Over time the gap between people who caused that harm and those that think they are not hurting anyone has widened. With AI it caused many of those that thought it was acceptable to consume illegal content to put another layer between their victims and offload the moral baggage.


To me it became clear when people here rejected any compromises on privacy and anonymous on device scanning of messages/data. Not because they rejected it but how they rejected it.

People here didn't say "yeah it's a real evil problem and e2e tech that we build makes it almost impossible to catch and helps it scale, so let's find the right tradeoff that minimizes privacy invasion". No. People here just mocked "think of the children" and said something along the lines of no amount of suffering can make any restriction to privacy be acceptable. The fact that 99% of our life is literally compromising our freedom for others they don't care.

To buellerbueller's killed comment, I totally feel it. it was a shocker when it turned out many of my fellow Russians got no problem with Putin's war and I bet that's what half of USA feels.


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It might be related to that the bitcoin metadata contains csam, I.e. if you have a full ledger stored you’re technically a criminal.


its this elon cult, its "anything he does has to be defended" so you end up contorting yourself into defending actual csam!


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