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wordpress is valuable because it allows very bad developers / marketing people to write very bad code and get away with it, driving extremely low cost solutions for clients who are cost concious.

yes you want a global db handle sure ya lets delete all tables woohoo


If it powers 30-50% of the web, including thousands of major websites, it works at some level.

Ivory tower "just don't use a low-cost solution" people aren't going to hand over money to people to use a higher-cost one, are they?

And ignoring why it's used besides the sloppiness means they have a huge blind spot to what people actually want:

"wordpress is valuable because it allows very bad developers / marketing people to write very bad code and get away with it, driving extremely low cost solutions for clients who are cost concious"

Nothing in this quote doesn't describe very real needs.


> wordpress is valuable because it allows very bad developers / marketing people to write very bad code and get away with it, driving extremely low cost solutions for clients who are cost concious.

You've sort of nailed it, but this isn't a bad thing. An alternative for these customers does not exist.

There's another vertical which is organizations that have armies of writers churning out content. Any kind of publisher or advertiser, basically. There is no better CMS for this. Large organizations like NYT, etc chose to write their own.


>> wordpress is valuable because it allows very bad developers / marketing people to write very bad code and get away with it, driving extremely low cost solutions for clients who are cost concious.

> You've sort of nailed it, but this isn't a bad thing. An alternative for these customers does not exist.

Yes! I'm locked into WordPress, which I hate, because it's the only platform that will allow a non-developer to maintain it if I get hit by a bus.


I started building sites for clients in the late '90's, and quickly made "client can edit their phone number on all pages" a key requirement. Wordpress with a WYSIWYG page builder solves that — it's not the only solution, but it works pretty close to right out of the box.

There are better alternatives, for as little as $10 per month. If your clients think such a cost is too much, then you want better clients.

Which also allows you to not be on call 24/7.

A decade ago I had to learn and run WordPress for a job. I held my nose up the stink was so bad. But quickly I learned how to manage it and have modern sensible practices around it and I've probably gotten more real value out of it than any other CMS or web framework I've touched. That includes Rails.

Thankfully I don't have to do that anymore, but you can sanely and safely run WordPress today and there's zero shame in it.


There are options that can be run by anyone, but they're often very constrained in what they can do and show.

Wordpress is solidly in that middle ground where you can do a large amount of customization if someone'll pay for it, and then they can do the day-to-day care and feeding of it.

Everything else has either been much worse in all possible ways (Joomla!) or has been a collection of developer wish-lists unusable by anyone (Drupal).


yep. we like it because with shopify or other platforms, you run into limitations. with Wordpress I can literally just whip it into whatever shape i want.

and the other half work for the government or an NGO LOL

it's muddying what a package is. A package, or a distro, is the people who slave and labor over packaging, reviewing, deciding on versions to ship, having policies in place, security mailing lists, release schedules, etc.

just shipping from npm crap is essentially the equivelant of running your production code base against Arch AUR pkgbuilds.


Yes. I work at boring companies that are not evil instead. Never went to my local magnate (Comcast), left a company when they off/onshored entire teams to HCL slaves, etc.

No i won't make 350K as a dev. Yes i will have a paltry middle class existence while we still have a profession called IT.


I used to work on software for non-profits. I found it fulfilling but it was hard to do the work since I found fullstack technically uninteresting (this is my own shortcoming).

Finding a balance in that is difficult. I have seen that it might be easier to find a societally good job the less technically deep the job gets. Networking research seems to be both technically interesting and connected to societal impact (eg. because of the ties to censorship, security, net neutrality etc)

It seems hard to continue doing this sort of research after your PhD though, as in both your school name matters immensely (i.e. you're screwed if you didn't go to Berkeley, CMU, Stanford, or MIT) and so does your publishing success to land a research job, which seems like an enormous task.


if you are always looking for new 'audiences' it's probably just media and not social media. I use hubs my peers and friends use. IRC, email and for the boomers - Facebook.

weird they start about McCarthy since he was absolutely right

acquhire practicies show that yes - sometimes people really ARE the company. However, i think for the average C# developer, or Epson printer specialist or wordpress or Bosch controller analyst, these arent really true.

There's some definite prior art here where they worked on that a LOT.

https://www.erlang-factory.com/static/upload/media/149858389...


You know, I read those slides when they were new, and I apparently just completely forgot about it.

Not that it's not interesting, just that my brain is dumb sometimes.


Unfortunately, the hydros project website is gone. I'm not sure if it moved somewhere.


Thanks! There's some really interesting things here. I chose to interface with some basic hardware only from my kernel, but hydros uses Erlang to interface with the IO-APIC and a bunch of other stuff. They've even got NIFs to do sti/cli from Erlang.

Like New Caledonia the wealth of our nation has been pumped into a get rich scheme looking for a new world

I'm gonna scoop my own /8 and lock a 100 year colo lease

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