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this is true, "black" has been used in racist ways, but it got rehabbed and reclaimed in the 60s and 70s.

but more to the point, it is not currently used in a racist manner by the vast majority of the US, and certainly does not carry the same connotations as "yellow", so not really comparable imo


"yellowsky" sounds racist because calling asians "yellow" is racist.

"whitesky" sounds racist because...well, i don't know if you're a big history buff but in the US white-people-only gatherings were always suuuuper racist.


Any X-people only gathering is super some-sort-of-ist.


agreed...i think it's fine to keep up with what the corporate world is doing, but these projects bring me real joy


This isn't really a metric. It's a description to help the reader understand the magnitude of effort that went into this project. SLoC is a bad metric for plenty of things, but I think it's fine for quickly conveying the scope of a project to a blog reader.


Lines of code is also a poor indicator for “magnitude of effort.”

Tangent: generally I’m more inclined to believe quality is improved when someone claims 1000s of lines reduced rather than 1000s of lines written.


Do you remember writing the proof for quicksort, which is say 0.1k lines? 15k lines of verified code is a pretty good indication of effort.

But the problem may come from the headline, which is somewhat clickbaity. HN forbids changing it, and then part of the discussion focuses on the literal content of the headline, which is, as you rightly hint, not the best summary of what's interesting here.


Programs are already proofs. A 15,000-line proof is going to have a mistake somewhere.

In mathematics, the proofs tend to be resilient to minor errors and omissions, because the important part is that the ideas are correct.

In applied cryptography, errors and omissions are foundations for exploits.

Verifying that those 15,000 lines do what they do doesn't give me much more confidence than thorough unit testing would.


> A 15,000-line proof is going to have a mistake somewhere.

If this proof is formal, than it is not going to. That is why writing formal proofs is such a PITA, you actually have to specify every little detail, or it doesn't work at all.

> Verifying that those 15,000 lines do what they do doesn't give me much more confidence than thorough unit testing would.

It actually does. Programs written in statically typed languages (with reasonably strong type systems) empirically have less errors than the ones written in dynamically typed languages. Formal verification as done by F* is like static typing on (a lot of) steroids. And HACL has unit tests among other things.


From my experience, pre LLMs, it was a valid proxy metric for effort


See: AI generating 1000s of lines


It's a metric of complexity


Followed closely by "The Breadboard Has Been Drinking"


What’s he ProtoTyping in theeerreee? What the hell is he prototyping in there?


chill, be nice


You're presuming that every phrase was worded _just so_. This could very well have been from the author refactoring their sentence and not simplifying everything. They probably were thinking in these terms (the author is a PL guy from MSR who's pretty heavy into a lot of the formalism) and this sounds like a not-perfectly-polished formal thought.

It's technical, and sometimes technical writing isn't written perfectly. That doesn't mean it's due to willful obtusity, or trying to sound smart.


Meh, it's usable w/out github but you'll be reading raw markdown files (unless you get your own markdown renderer which isn't that big of a deal). But yeah, it's either an incomplete git-based wiki or a complete github based wiki.


I found In My Room to be an incredibly moving album. Djesse left me feeling far less after a first listen, but when I returned a few days later I started to notice things I had missed and now I really enjoy that album as well.

I am very moved by his music, in large part because of its cleverness. At the same time, I completely understand why many people are left unmoved. Different strokes, I guess.


This is going on all of my homeworks (submitted electronically, of course)


There should also be a Latex library (?) that makes your documents look like they were photocopied, so you can use the coffee stains and the photocopy to make it look like you spent long nights working on your assignments.



Haha that first one's great, addresses (what is sadly) a real need.

I've seen that cthulhu-worshipping madman one before, but the results are disappointing. I'm sure much better can be done in that direction. e.g. (is this the most famous SE answer of all-time?) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open...


On the TV show White Collar, there's an episode where a fake (paper) case file is put together and adding coffee mug stains is part of the process.


I've managed to sneak this in (I renamed it to basepackage.sty so no one would notice) into the base template at my company.

Let the chaos ensue!


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